UGA Football Recruiting 12-APR-2016

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UGA Football Recruiting 12-APR-2016

Cam Akers edit by Bob Miller
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UGA Football Recruiting Daily Thread


Today’s Featured Recruits



Cam Akers

Classs of 2017 – RB

Clinton High School, MS



Robert Holt

Class of 2017 – Athlete

Monterey Trail HS, Elk Grove, CA



Juwuan Jones

Class of 2017 – LB

Lanier HS, Sugar Hill, GA



Zach Quinney

Class of 2017 – OL

Savannah Christian HS, Savannah, GA








updated as of 04-12-2016 at 02:00 AM ET











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459 responses on “UGA Football Recruiting 12-APR-2016

  1. CLTDawg

    Greg Poole I like it. Kid’s an athlete, and he’ll be able to prove what he can do with the ball in his hands. Could impress the coaches and then who knows? In a roundabout way, it could help him cut through the crowd at receiver if he ends up moving back.

  2. CLTDawg

    DawgByte CLTDawg Bulldawg Bob2 Greg Poole From what I’ve heard, he hasn’t even cracked the two deep yet. He’s still young and growing, though. He’s got the frame that Pittman likes.

  3. CLTDawg

    DawgLink According to the incident report, $650 was the replacement value, not the repair value. The fridges in the players’ dorms are full size refrigerator/freezers, not the typical dorm mini fridge.

  4. CLTDawg

    Red Dawn Bad PR week. All goes away if you win football games, but kickoff is a long way away.

  5. Red Dawn

    What a week.  Now the media is going after UGA for not getting a band.  McGarity drops the ball again. Kirby’s got no allies amongst the GA based newspapers now.  Better keep it high and tight because they are out for blood.

  6. Greg Poole

    Kirby indicated tonight that Shaquery Wilson is now a full-time running back – at least for spring

  7. Bulldawg36

    the only pic i could find of me and my english bulldog…this was taken in christmas 2009 i believe.

  8. RobDawg

    I just can’t seem to be inspired on anything he says….. So what he really should have said is someone dropped the ball and didn’t pay up for somebody to appear or didn’t try hard enough. No way they couldn’t put someone out there. Even a hungry up and comer group will be better than a video

  9. Brooklyndawg

    From the report so far, it seemed more the observation of bb gun damage rather than concern the gun was truly a firearm

  10. RobDawg

    And not making excuses but toy Bob guns these days can look exactly like a real honest to goodness handgun, so perhaps the maintenance guy saw it, reacted immediately and thought it was real deal. Can’t blame anyone but those who took the risk

  11. Greg Poole

    Kirby would say say the gunmen will be suspended and did indicate that thet would be at practice Thursday. They missed today because they were making up missed classwork

  12. Brooklyndawg

    Seems as if, once the bb indentation were observed, that’s when things escalated to the 2 subpoenas to investigate throughout the apartment. It’s not dificult to imagine a little mj and liquor fueled rhem doing target practice. Hope they don’t get suspended

  13. DawgLink

    They claim $650 damage for the frig alone. You can replace a dorm frig with a new one for less

  14. Bulldawg Bob2

    Brooklyndawg Clay is fortunate he didn’t have enough to be charged by the law enforcement entities, but the University may slap him with additional penalties per school policy.

    And aye. I am sure Kirby almost popped a blood vessel or two. Clay and Rochester are going to get familiar with the steps at Sanford over the next several months among other things.

  15. Bulldawg Bob2

    Brooklyndawg Aye. And I am sure the estimates are maximum amounts. It can probably be repaired for cheaper, but the fact that there is damage that is estimated over $1,000 is part of the reason things went down hill for Clay and Rochester here. 

    No damage and likely it doesn’t get discovered.

  16. Brooklyndawg

    Frankly, I’m more concerned about the allegation of the 2nd subpoenaed investigation finding some drug-related paranaphalia on Clay’s side of the apartment. No drugs were found but CKS’ head must be exploding

  17. Bulldawg Bob2

    dawgmum Bulldawg Bob2 1mandawgpack DawgByte I don’t think we know all the details yet, but at least one or more employees were involved as they were called out to look at reported damage from what I understand. Then things started to evolve from there.

  18. dawgmum

    Bulldawg Bob2 dawgmum 1mandawgpack DawgByte Yeah, no blame here; just clarifying that it was employees reporting and not students.

  19. Brooklyndawg

    It’s Georgia state law banning bb guns as a projectile firing weapon on a school campus, right? The maintenance guys had no choice.

  20. Bulldawg Bob2

    dawgmum 1mandawgpack DawgByte If it was the maintenance manager, it is possible he could have handled between them and the coaching staff, but if it ever came back him that he looked the other way, it could mean their job.

    I am not sure it is fair to ask a guy or gal to risk his or her job here because a couple of teenagers decided to goof off and got caught.

    Again, I understand that the zero tolerance law and classifying a BB gun as a felony weapon is way over the top, but the law is the problem and the UGA policy. 

    Let’s not start blaming people for doing their jobs when their butts could be on the line if they didn’t. Get the law and school policy changed.

  21. dawgmum

    1mandawgpack DawgByte Pretty sure it was UGA employees who called it out. Somewhere here there is a link to the police report, which only lists employees as “witnesses”.

  22. 1mandawgpack

    DawgByte  I doubt it was anyone in a “position” at the university.  It was likely other students living in the same dorm as the athletes no longer have their own dorms as that was deemed “preferential” treatment by administrators.

  23. Bulldawg Bob2

    Greg Poole Nah. Not that big of a deal. Plus, I like the nick name Nicky “No Neck”

  24. PatriotVeteran

    CLTDawg Greg Poole First come, First to Commit deserves the slot.     Those who wait too long deserve to lose their slot.   GO DAWGS

  25. DawgByte

    CLTDawg Bulldawg Bob2 Greg Poole Speaking of Sage, I thought we’d be hearing more from him and that he’d potentially be vying for some PT at Center or Guard.

  26. DawgByte

    What’s up lads?! 

    Lots of news today. We pick-up a OL from Dunwoody high with plenty of size and strength. Could be productive in a couple of years. I like it. What I don’t like is Rochester & Clay making incredibly poor decisions. WTH is up with the people who spilled the beans? Those arse wipes need to be removed from their positions yesterday!!! I mean if they saw the BB gun, they could have said, “Someone is going to get you in trouble for having it on campus or even gone to a coaches assistant or something. But calling the cops is ridiculous. Sack them!

  27. Bulldawg Bob2

    RumRunnerDoogie The only place where it might hurt is those camps where coaches from smaller schools were invited to attend and allowed to scout and recruit those prospects that most likely would be considered either walk-ons or lower targets on the board for a bigger program.

    Greg is right. Schools will fill scholarship quotas and number with or without satellite camps.

  28. Bulldawg Bob2

    Greg Poole Greg who is that? I cannot tell from the front without seeing a number lol

  29. CLTDawg

    PTCDawg CLTDawg One more tip: if you’re daughter is anything like me, or like most law students, she’s probably very motivated and has a tendancy to overthink or try to analyze something into perfection. I stressed out a lot over my law school decision, until my Dad slapped some sense into me and reminded me that all the schools were good options and it was up to me to make a call and then completely commit to making it work for me! Tell your daughter not to stress and to enjoy the process! It’s the closest bookworms like us ever get to feeling like a big time football recruit! Lol.

  30. CLTDawg

    PTCDawg CLTDawg All very good options. Scholarship options will get better as she hears more from schools and is able to negotiate a bit. Schools have money freed up as the process goes on and students start committing and paying deposits. 

    All of my friends at Vandy law or who graduated from there absolutely love it. Hard to beat the name brand, and the firms who come on campus there (as well as Emory) are very impressive. Lots of reach to multiple markets.

  31. Greg Poole

    RumRunnerDoogie  Every school will fill every scholarship allowed by NCAA every year. Who is hurt? No one is left out because every slot is taken. The ESPN statement only makes sense if one starts with the assumption that the wrong schools are getting the players.

  32. PTCDawg

    CLTDawg PTCDawg Exceedingly useful observations, thank you! At the top of her list at the moment is Emory, she was very happy with her visit there…William and Mary was probably second and Georgia third…her best offer was Alabama but she just does not want to be in Tuscaloosa for some unknown reason…tho their law school is very well respected. She is waiting to hear back from Vanderbilt on the scholarship offer. She has not been there but their employment numbers are very impressive. Hopefully it would not be a place she would be unhappy if she was able to go.

  33. RumRunnerDoogie

    ESPN says banning satellite camps hurts recruits….well last i heard IMG wasnt hurting on exposure…morons

  34. CLTDawg

    PTCDawg CLTDawg Hmm…tough call, because it depends. In general, rankings (however flawed they may be in their calculation) are a good tiebreaker because many law firms use them when making interviewing/hiring decisions. 

    In general, most students’ ideas about what “area” of the law they want to specialize in will change while they are in law school. It’s usually not a good way to choose a school, because what if your interests change? Also, and with very few exceptions, law schools offering some sort of specialty is usually just a bunch of marketing. Some exceptions are Vermont with environmental law, Tulane with maritime law, Chicago for law and economics, or NYU for Tax. 

    So I would advise that ranking is probably a more useful decision making tool than a school’s specialty. That said, the most important things to me are:

    1. Location in relation to the job market you want (Don’t go to Seattle School of Law if you want to work in Augusta, Ga., for instance). Some schools have a national footprint though, so this matters less for them.

    2. Employment statistics for the school. 

    3. Whether you’re comfortable being there. Whenever I’ve hosted visiting law students, I tell them that when I was on my visits, one of the things I’d look at is the overall environment in the building. Are people generally happy? Is there conversation or laughter? Are people in groups? Some law schools have great environments. Some have more forlorn environments. It’s a product of the curved grading system, the competitiveness between the students, and the rigor of the degree. 

    Hope this helps! It’s your daughter who’s looking, right? Has she narrowed it down at all?

  35. PTCDawg

    CLTDawg PTCDawg Will give it a try, thanks CLT!
    BTW, your opinion CLT…would you be more likely to choose a law school based on their national ranking or based on what kind of law they tend to be know for?

  36. CLTDawg

    PTCDawg CLTDawg Lol! If you have your email and password that you use for your cable/satellite provider, that should be all you need!

  37. PTCDawg

    Dang. I thought GDay was on ESPN2, which I DO get. It is on ESPNU, which I DONT get. Thanks to whoever posted this info earlier so I can now plan ahead. Ratz!!!

  38. CLTDawg

    UGA Football Snapchat had some of the 1 on 1 circle drills today. Reggie Davis and Juwuan Briscoe got after it!

  39. Reddawg13

    MMCSDAWG This staff gets Ramsey’s head on right and we see the Ramsey we have been waiting on, you heard it here!

  40. Jesse1

    Farewell and good Dawg bites until later on. Happy hour at the French Market Grille beckons. And since I rarely have a reliable chauffeur, have to make it count. Some gumbo, followed with marinated shrimp, and a plate of crawfish etouffee’ beckons. If it ain’t Red & Black, it ain’t!

  41. Bulldawg Bob2

    BenKellam MMCSDAWG OH. Aye. Don’t disagree, but just saying, it didn’t look good given the whole situation.

  42. BenKellam

    MMCSDAWG Jesse1 Bulldawg36 Can they not go wherever they want if they are dismissedfrom a school?

  43. BenKellam

    Bulldawg36 There hasn’t really been anything shocking in recent memory. The worst i can remember is Jon Taylors agravated assault. And he wound up at Auburn. The rest is nonsense like signatures. Oh and Ogletree stole a moped helmet his freshman year.

  44. BroDawg

    MMCSDAWG BroDawg All good here.. Gonna take my youngin the GDay game it looks like… He is just getting at the age where he loves the game

  45. Bulldawg36

    Seems like ours is always for petty stuff though. Maybe I just don’t pay attention to other schools

  46. BenKellam

    MMCSDAWG BenKellam Bulldawg Bob2 This is true. According to that police report, they found a bong, bag of weed shake, blunt wrappers, and a grinder but didn’t find enough of any residue to charge. I wonder how Kirby is going to treat that. Richt would have probably suspended them both 2 games to start the season on top of whatever suspension comes from the actual arrest.


    BenKellam Bulldawg Bob2 MMCSDAWG Agreed, but two wrongs don’t make a right…   they weren’t charged with anything alcohol or drug related, that is a minor miracle in itself compared to times past…

  48. Bulldawg36

    It is what it is… Just a mistake made. They will hopefully learn their lesson and concentrate on academics and football for here on out or end up at auburn.

  49. BenKellam

    Bulldawg Bob2 BenKellam MMCSDAWG The bottles are really no different than every other student on campus.

  50. Jesse1

    Bulldawg36 New sheriff in town. A bit more flexibility with regard to these matters perhaps?

  51. Bulldawg36

    We are always facing adversity when it comes to players getting suspended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    BroDawg Nothing much!  Looking forward to G-day and hopefully some new commits in the near future! how about you?

  53. Bulldawg Bob2

    BenKellam MMCSDAWG I don’t think they found enough to charge them with anything drug related, but it just doesn’t look good given everything else. They also found wine and beer bottles, and while having the bottles is not a crime, that also didn’t look good since Clay and Rochester are under 21.

  54. Jesse1

    rugbydawg79 Jesse1 RumRunnerDoogie MMCSDAWG That would be Tony DeGrate. Or maybe that middle  linebacker Jeff Leiding who was one of the first 1st round draft picks ever to be cut before September. Dawgs kicked their tail.

  55. BenKellam

    Jesse1 BenKellam MMCSDAWG You can say the same about white tube socks and shoelaces. There’s a reason that those items are kept in a glass case right by the register at sketchy gas stations. Point is, basically anything can be “paraphernalia” if you want to spin it that way.

  56. Jesse1

    MMCSDAWG Greg Poole BenKellam I would have counter sued. And since I’ve got not only the time but the inclination to do so, he’d tear up his brats driving permit.

  57. rugbydawg79

    Jesse1 rugbydawg79 RumRunnerDoogie MMCSDAWG I had buddies at the game and they confirmed what you said Texas was talking all kinds of trash -and one their DL was talking smack to Lastinger – made it so sweet when he scored


    Jesse1 BenKellam MMCSDAWG I have a Grinder for “herbs” at my house as well!  lol  Nothing like some fresh Rosemary and Thyme.


    Greg Poole BenKellam MMCSDAWG Don’t I know that…  My knucklehead son and a couple of buddies decided to do donuts in his HS parking lot.   You don’t want to know how much they charged us for repairs to the freaking parking lot and there was one parent that claimed damages to his son’s car from some gravel that was thrown during the incident.

  60. BenKellam

    MMCSDAWG Also 650 bucks for a couple of BB dents in a fridge and 350 for a wooden door? lol no way

  61. BenKellam

    MMCSDAWG If they found “drug related items” in the bathroom but didn’t charge him for anything, I doubt they found anything real.

  62. Bansai buckeroo

    Im afraid Top I have about as much interest in this as I do the DRob commitment…..none

  63. Greg Poole

    BenKellam He had a verbal confrontation with one or more coaches over the amount of PT he was getting.

  64. Greg Poole

    For all of you dying for info on the shootout at the OK apartments: The incident took place at approx. 3PM Thursday. After a through investing the gunmen were charged


    Details on the incident this morning in the dorms…  looks like they weren’t shooting at solo cups after all and they found what “appeared” to be drug related objects in Clay’s bathroom.  I don’t believe this incident is worthy of a Felony charge, but it’s more serious and more reckless that we may have thought initially.   It will be interesting to see how this is handled by CKS and UGA.    Guess these kids just didn’t listen to Herschel on Saturday before the scrimmage.

  66. Score Check

    Jesse1 MMCSDAWG RumRunnerDoogie
    clem (abbreviated lower case intented  aka the university of clem)

  67. Jesse1

    Bulldawg36 But if they must, fire it in my direction. I won’t call the police, cause I’ll be shooting back. Great fun with BB guns 😉

  68. Jesse1

    rugbydawg79 RumRunnerDoogie Jesse1 MMCSDAWG They still try and claim we were lucky. Until I show em the stats, and prove that other than 2 pass plays in the 1st quarter from Rick McIvor to Bill Boy Bryant, Texas managed an eye popping 62 yards total offense. Texas was overrated. All those boys who went on to Sunday ball, only Jerry Gray was worth a second look. We sent half as many to the NFL. But out guys stuck around long enough to garner an NFL pension. We were as big,faster, and flat out meaner and tougher than Texas.

  69. rugbydawg79

    RumRunnerDoogie rugbydawg79 Jesse1 MMCSDAWG Had tried to say It is always 10 to 9 in Texas

  70. Bulldawg Bob2

    CLTDawg Greg Poole I don’t think we really know what the depth charts will be till part of the way through fall camp, and then at some spots, might not know till a few days before the kickoff versus UNC.

    Clay was supposedly playing and practicing well this spring, but I am not sure if he would have cracked the two deep at DB.

  71. AlphaDawg

    CLTDawg Greg Poole Bulldawg Bob2 Didn’t expect him to see the field this season. That doesn’t change my thoughts on a silly situation (facts currently presented to public) that could have been handled without an arrest. Luckily, him missing any playing time will not change much. For Rochester, I thought he was in the 2 Deep for DL. For his sake, he better hope Carter or Clark don’t ball out in the summer and get some playing time on the first game or he’s going to be fighting to gain why you EE.

  72. Jesse1

    CLTDawg AlphaDawg With predictions of 75 degrees I’m not worried. And as an aside, try booking a hotel/motel room in Athens or around for under $300. Booked solid. This Saturday is going to be a Red & Black kinda day we will look back on in a few years as the beginning. Of a new era. I always believed Kirbs would coach at a high level. Figured he would be set in place when we needed him. And one thing you can rest well knowing: we won’t be arriving in Jville wondering why we’re there. I never felt CMR took the UF game as seriously as he should have. And I felt CVD didn’t take beating his alma mater as seriously as Pat Dye did whipping us. And it showed.

  73. Jesse1

    MMCSDAWG Jesse1 RumRunnerDoogie Cotton Bowl 84′ was in spite of almost freezing to death a most excellent day. Before the game, the Texas folks around us thought they were going to have a fun day at our expense. Ya’ll came all the way from Augusta to se this? Ain’t gonna be no game. We beat Oklahoma this year.” Daddy told a bunch of em parked around us, surrounding us actually, “Fellow, at or about 4;00 today you are going to ask yourself, why in Hells bells did we invite these Georgia crackers out here? Ya’ll have a  defense? Hold on there young fellow, we play a little defense too. Truth is, we’re tougher than ya’ll. And that will be plenty enough to wipe a cows a double s and drag it through the fire.” We waited for an hour after the game for those boys to come back to their car. Probably were waiting for us to leave, cause as Greg will vouch, when it came to UGA ( and anything Georgia minus Tech) one of the last folks you wanted to run down Georgia in the presence of was my Dad. He was likely to take it personal. And was pretty fast to be 300+.

  74. CLTDawg

    AlphaDawg Yikes. This could turn out to be a pretty bad PR week for Kirby & Co. A lot in terms of perception is riding on getting that 93K number now.

  75. CLTDawg

    With Briscoe and Parish being good – but probably not good enough to leave early – with Mecole coming this year, and by all indications a fantastic 2017 class for defensive backs coming next year, did anybody think prior to today that Chad Clay was going to see much action on defense? Does today change your opinion (rumors that he’s acted up already since arriving in January, and today might be the last straw). Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts. Especially our more tied in folks. Greg Poole Bulldawg Bob2

  76. Bulldawg36

    Commit to the G and win a championship!!!!! Don’t shoot a BB gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. RumRunnerDoogie

    Jesse1 RumRunnerDoogie i live in FL…that wouldnt take long. my running from cops days are over..i hope lol

  78. Jesse1

    MMCSDAWG Jesse1 RumRunnerDoogie Any orange will do. Barn, clemson( lower case intentional), and the former football powerhouse known as Texas. What time is it in Texas? 10 to 9 orangehead. Eat steer for 40 years.

  79. Jesse1

    RumRunnerDoogie Kicking the first human unit you see wearing orange will cause the edema to go down.

  80. Jesse1

    Bulldawg Bob2 Jesse1 ronaldo77 Score Check Bob, we were lucky to have grown up in the South before civilization arrived. Kids I grew up with, we never knew, or gave second thoughts to improving our aim at the expense of an old beer or Coke can.Neither did anyone else.

  81. Bulldawg Bob2

    Jesse1 Bingo. Once there was third party involved that called and reported the incident, the police officers that were called out couldn’t just confiscate the bb/pellet gun and give Clay and Rochester a warning.

    If they had done that, they would have lost there jobs more than likely.

    ronaldo77 Score Check Don’t get me wrong. I find the “no tolerance” laws lacking much common sense, but I understand why they came to be after incidents like Columbine, Virgina Tech, ect.

    What one could get away with as boys being boys having fun with a bb/pellet gun 20 to 30 years ago and on back isn’t looked at in the same way in today’s sensitive climate.

    Hopefully and I expect the charges to be reduced to a misdemeanor, but we will have to wait and see.

  82. Jesse1

    Greg Poole MMCSDAWG Catchphrase of the young bruisers: “Pain! Coming at ya. All day sucka. Shoulda brung your tail UGA.”

  83. Jesse1

    Greg Poole ronaldo77 Not to say 2nd chances won’t be given, but some players are better off elsewhere.

  84. Jesse1

    PTCDawg Another dude with a whole lotta upside. 6’7 nearly 320, KB should be planting  folks when he gets in the game. He’s going to be fresh. As UGA returns to being a great offensive lineman school, the win/loss record will, I believe, reflect the emphasis placed on the performance of the big uglies.

  85. Greg Poole

    ronaldo77  Since he was dismissed for what could be called insubordination, I doubt the current staff would be interested.

  86. Jesse1

    Bulldawg Bob2 And with body cameras and other video rolling, even if the officer wanted to deep six the incident, he can’t anymore.

  87. PTCDawg

    Hear a lot about baker who is same class. Just haven’t heard of him as even one of the top eight guys. Glad to hear he is still on track.

  88. Jesse1

    Bansai buckeroo My only problem with CNS? 9-27-2008, and 10-3-2015. Back on 10-2-2004 I really liked him ;-).

  89. Bulldawg Bob2

    The ACCPD did not over react. They are just doing their jobs. The law is the problem. If someone calls 911 and says there are two individuals shooting guns on or near campus, what do you expect the police to do?

  90. Jesse1

    Bulldawg Bob2 But wow. Look at the tools Big Pat has working for him. 6’5, and the wingspan of a 747. And the rumor is he has a bit of a mean streak.

  91. Jesse1

    MMCSDAWG PTCDawg Absolutely. Taking the redshirt, getting stronger, getting ahead in the classroom. And feasting on vittles from the Ritz-Carlton Dining Room of collegiate dining tables can’t hurt either. Even guys who go elsewhere swear by our sous chefs.


    PTCDawg From all accounts I’ve been able to read/hear, he’s pretty much operating at 2nd team RT right now and that is actually not a bad thing.  It’s been said by many around here before especially our fearless leader, you really can’t count on offensive lineman cracking the rotation for about 2 years.  He’s on schedule accordingly.  It will be good to see them on the field come Sat.  i will tape the game and the first thing I will do is go back and watch the OL in slow motion and in more detail.

  93. ronaldo77

    Is Sheldon Dawson still going to UGA or trying to get back on the team? he is always making instagram posts of him back from the uga days and saying stuff like “still trying to grind back”

  94. PTCDawg

    Any word on how Pat Allen is doing? I hear very little about him, which can’t be a good thing.

  95. Bansai buckeroo

    @ Greg Poole Jesse1… My point exactly…if you are going to do something stupid, now is the time to do it while your absence from a game will have little or no impact….

  96. dawgmum

    Jesse1 BenKellam Greg Poole Bansai buckeroo Several of our walk-ons qualify for the Hope and or Zell Miller scholarship.

  97. Jesse1

    Greg Poole Bansai buckeroo And besides, as good as he is, a salty 4th or 5th year offensive lineman is going to take him to school for the first half of the season at minimum.

  98. Greg Poole

    Bansai buckeroo  Right now, JR does not appear to be in good enough shape to help much – not to mention of the other things that Rocker is constantly yelling at him about.

  99. Bulldawg36

    Manziel is not an NFL qb. He was good in college but the game is faster and they have guys that can track him down- pretty easy to run down a hi Qb! Lol

  100. Jesse1

    AlphaDawg Greg Poole I’ve thought about buying a bird. Maybe, just maybe I might fine some use for the AJC.

  101. AlphaDawg

    Greg Poole whaaa whaa so sick of these babies still complaining. AJC is driving me nuts

  102. Jesse1

    AlphaDawg MMCSDAWG Maybe he knows all he needs to about Lambert. After all, his defense made me nostalgic for Hutson. As Lou Holtz said, if Lambert was all that, he would have been the starting QB in Charlottesville.

  103. Jesse1

    Greg Poole Bulldawg36 The headers on those two are dominating the front sports page of everything from ABC to Reuters. And every 2 minutes on the bottom of the tv screen. It’s torture. Solution? Just hang out at BI. Problem solved.

  104. Jesse1

    1mandawgpack Score Check Apparently those Red Solo cups took a whupping. Justice must be served.

  105. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg36  There is a really easy way to avoid seeing them. You are not actually require to click links concerning them.

  106. 1mandawgpack

    Score Check  I don’t have any issue with them holding these young men accountable for any damage that they caused to the dorm as they should know better than shooting a BB gun indoors (it just makes no sense).  I also somewhat understand that the PD has a job to do and likely responded to a call by someone reporting the inappropriate behavior.  What I absolutely hate, and know that there is nothing that can be done about it, is the inconsistency in upholding rules/laws.  When Gurley received a 4 game suspension for autograph-gate, Jamest Winston had more autographed merchandise available for sale on websites than Gurley did, with no response.  Winston also was caught shooting squirrels on FSU’s campus with a BB gun (in what might be viewed as an “active shooter” episode since he was in public with a gun), again with little to no response (no felony arrest, no Fulmer Cup ramifications, etc.).  But, this juvenile stunt by two very immature 18 – 20 year old young men who are living away from home for the first times in their lives in which they posed no harm to anyone but themselves will result in UGA retaining the reputation of being a program that is out of control from a behavioral standpoint (a reputation that we’ve helped create for ourselves given the stringent manner in which the rules are applied in Athens).  From everything I’ve seen/read, both of these young men are from good families and anything that the school/athletic program will do to them from a punishment perspective will likely pale in comparison to the what they’ll receive from their families.  I suspect that the charges will be downgraded, but who knows in dealing with situations in Athens as I had the same thoughts about equally trivial matters that happened to our players.

  107. Greg Poole

    dsw61 MMCSDAWG There is a report, unconfirmed, that Eason had a long TD run in Saturday’s scrimmage also.

  108. Bansai buckeroo

    @score check…being true freshmen not sure if being held out of a game is a big deal..

  109. Bulldawg36

    I’m so sick of seeing Johnny Manziel and Josh Gordon. The NFL should say good bye to them forever, because it’s obvious their priorities are partying did other things! TMZ should just stop interviewing him

  110. dsw61

    MMCSDAWG I listened to the Kirby segment on 680. Ramsey has always been very athletic. CMR was okay with the QBs running as a last resort, but he placed so much emphasis on standing in the pocket, trusting the protection, and throwing it out of bounds if nothing was open; that the QBs got coached out of running. Imagine if Park was still at UGA. Pretty sure Chaney would love working with him. Chaney is going to have to break down the mental wall against running that the QBs have built up under CMR. I expect the QBs to look more comfortable because they will be allowed to make plays with their legs, which should translate to better decision making when throwing.

  111. Jesse1

    MMCSDAWG Jesse1 RumRunnerDoogie Sometimes club level. In the late 80’s there would be more folks at a Westside-Evans baseball game than some mid week crash and burns at Braves Stadium. Never got around to acknowledging the doughnut as AFCS.

  112. Greg Poole

    Score Check  Not sure if I am wise anf I know I’m unconventional but, yes, the felony charges will not be pursued.

  113. Jesse1

    Score Check Unless they were shooting at windows or living creatures nothing should happen. A verbal warning will suffice.

  114. ronaldo77

    Score Check I would like to think it would be one game at the most. These charges should be reduced. It is a gross overreaction by the PD

  115. Score Check

    So what is the conventional wisdom on BB Gate?
    Will the charges be reduced?  If so are they likely to be held out of any games?

  116. Jesse1

    Greg Poole Bansai buckeroo Not trying to be a wiseguy but it using the zip code theory, it makes perfect sense to grow a strong walkon program.

  117. Bulldawg Bob2

    Bingo and good point. We talked about that on the podcast. Murray was wondering if the scampers were “legit” runs or not.

  118. Jesse1

    Greg Poole haws1178 We have had some great walkons. And as you wrote above, it frees ‘ships. Nebraska built their dynasty with walkons being  major contributors all over the field. Hone in on several affluent kids who flat out love the school and reap the benefit.

  119. dsw61

    Rickpope2330 When you say “pumped” today…I think of air rifles…pellet and BB guns…that you “pump” in order to shoot:)

  120. Jesse1

    MMCSDAWG Ran the Wing-T in high school. So yeah, Ramsey can run. Had Jeff Herron allowed him to toss the rock more than 3-5 times per game, who knows? Back in 2014 during G-Day broadcast, Arron Murray was in the booth, and mentioned he had averaged 30-35 passes per game. Even said he had tried to convince Ramsey to transfer to a different school, where he would get the reps, and so forth.

  121. Bulldawg36

    Might have to move Lamont Gailard back and Put Kenyon brown in..give him some playing time!!!! Put Johnny O Neal in at DE

  122. CLTDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 AlphaDawg Easy to break those big runs when the defense knows it can’t tackle you…but it is encouraging. Gotta have at least a little mobility at the position!

  123. CLTDawg

    Bulldawg36 I’m watching this year to see Mallex Smith progress now that he’s been called up, and that’s about it. Most of the excitement is in Gwinnett.

  124. CLTDawg

    Greg Poole I want Sermon. I know Cam Akers is the priority target at RB, but I have serious doubts about our ability to pull him from Mississippi by the time NSD rolls around. I also like the Swift kid from up north…but in my opinion, Sermon is the top RB in the state, and to me, that means he should be UGA bound. That is one position that we can credibly say that we have a legacy at, and it is important to me that we get the top in state guys at that spot.

  125. CLTDawg

    Geeze…looks like Kirby will have to solicit volunteers for depth on the D-Line against UNC! I still have eligibility coach! lol

  126. AlphaDawg

    MMCSDAWG Listened to it as well. Kirby has mentioned Ramsey a lot publicly. I haven’t heard him mention Lambert by name once.


    Anyone else listed to kirby on the 680 this morning?   His perspective on the current QB situation was interesting.  I remember some on here last year talking about Ramsey and his legs…  From what kirby had to say it sounds like Ramsey may actually be a threat with his legs!  Dang I wish this kid would get his mental side right.   The other notable info I liked was CKS talking about Briscoe and Stanley…  Briscoe is going to be a player!  But, the comments about Stanley and his ability to stretch the field got me a little excited.   I look forward to seeing the competition once all of our recruits get here this summer.  Including Mr. Wimms, I think he will be a contributor this fall!

  128. Bansai buckeroo

    @36…when I was a kid, my older brother would make me run and shoot me in the legs with my BB gun………. Ahhhhh the good old days…..###…haha


    haws1178 Sale looked like he might have the potential, but he had never coached at the level that Pittman has been at for a number of years.  I trusted Pruitt who from what I’ve heard/read is the one that pretty much picked Sale…  Sale may indeed make it back to the SEC but he needs to get a little more experience first…  We should have been a little more skeptical of Sale, from my research I didn’t see any Pro-style offensive line experience in his background.

  130. haws1178

    I done the same and I’m very excited about the hire and possibilities. I was also happy with the hire of Sale but I think the scheme didn’t do him any favors.


    haws1178 Pretty sure the highest ranked OL he had at Arky was 1 single 4* and yet he continued to produce NFL level lineman.  Looking at 2 I believe this year and 2 All-SEC still there.  When Pittman came to us, I looked up his history of OL and trust me, he has done a LOT with 0-3 star lineman during his time at UNC, UT and Arky.

  132. haws1178

    My $.02. I know rules are rules but the bb gun thing is just stupid. Destruction of property yes they need to be held accountable. But come on man really felony charges for a bb gun.


    Greg Poole Like you said OL make up 5 out of 11 starters on offense, yet how many are ever ranked as true 5* by the recruiting guru’s…  You could take that 1 step further to the NFL.  So almost half of the players on an offensive team are OL yet how many are drafted in the top 10 of the draft each year.  Unless you are the one in a thousand talent, your not going to be ranked high by the guru’s or drafted high into the NFL.

  134. haws1178

    Good points. We will just have to put our trust in Pittman. We’ve seen what he can do at arky and I don’t recall them recruiting any world better Oline classes. So something has to be said about his ability to develop players

  135. Bulldawg36

    Kirby is stocking up on the OL! Gonna have to stock on the DL next year it looks like. Too many DL are getting in trouble.. Some are in thin ice

  136. Bulldawg36

    Bad or good. I don’t really care for em. I just know they ain’t the team they were in the 90’s

  137. Bansai buckeroo

    @Bahits…. I’m sure these are all fine young men but I think Kirby is just shoring up some needs on the team without using a scholly….if they work out…..great…a win win

  138. RumRunnerDoogie

    Rickpope2330 just look for the tall ginger and the tall bald old guy and chances are thats greg and bob 😉

  139. haws1178

    If Pittman can take a walk on to the pros I believe our Oline recruitment worries will be over

  140. Greg Poole

    Keep a couple of things in mind with these offensive line walk on’s:

    1. Unless they played for a good team or attended numerous camps, it is not unusual for offensive lineman to be under-scouted. That is especially true if it looks like they’re going to attend an Ivy League school.
    2. Evaluations of offensive lineman are very difficult and very few writers want to go out onto a limb touting a guy who may turn out to be a great big average player. Thus, very few offensive lineman rise above 3 stars, especially given the fact that OLs comprise almost 50% of the offense.

  141. ed603

    AlphaDawg  Looks like CKS invite for police officers to attend practice didn’t yield any goodwill. If a bb gun causes a felony, I would be serving 10-life in the pen right now.

  142. Greg Poole

    haws1178  Patrick Garbin and I talked about this on a recent podcast. He said that never in Georgia’s history ha has the university had this many walk on. And he is BI’s official historian

  143. haws1178

    Have to work Saturday day morning unfortunately. I will be home in time to catch it on the tube though.

  144. BahitsDawg

    Bansai buckeroo these guys look like quality young men.  They may have just not caught the PR wind.   I love a success story from the walk on ranks.

  145. Rickpope2330

    Yeah they are but I’ve seen some good things from some of these young players we have. I’m ready for them to develop and compete

  146. Greg Poole

    Rickpope2330  We will have a table at the Bookstore patio – no tailgate – but drop by.


    haws1178 I hope so, eventually we will find that diamond in the ruff.  A PWO doesn’t hurt us at all as far as scholarships for next year and we need quality depth!

  148. Greg Poole

    haws1178  They are bringing in PWOs because they are offer the potential for immediate help without using a ‘ship that can be used for a highly rated player next season..

  149. BahitsDawg

    MMCSDAWG Greg Poole You also need to know which QB can’t take a hit and get up and then hit a 20 yard completion.

    Getting hit rattles some more than others.  Some guys thrive on it.  Others shrink.

  150. haws1178

    Will this trend continue? Will we keep bringing in PWO lineman or will we fill the spots with scholarship players

  151. Rickpope2330

    Good afternoon guys! Who else is pumped about G day? Anyone meeting up to tailgate or anything

  152. dsw61

    AlphaDawg Yep, I heard the interview and noted him saying that. Kirby and Chaney like QBs who can make plays with their legs when the opportunity presents itself. Ramsey is going to have to retrain himself to use his legs when the play breaks down, instead chucking the ball out of bounds…or getting sacked while telling himself to trust his protection:)


    Jesse1 RumRunnerDoogie I was there for many of those games at  Fulton county stadium!  Buy general admission seats and sit behind the dug outs…


    Greg Poole MMCSDAWG I know…  But for me, it’s hard to judge the effectiveness of the QB when they are being protected like they are in this type of scrimmage.  It’s easy to stand in the pocket and face down the pressure while making your reads when you know they aren’t going to hit your butt.

  155. Jesse1

    RumRunnerDoogie Jesse1 The “Trainwreck at Turner Field” is reminds me of the good old Dave Bristol days. Except Freddi doesn’t get tossed enough. This could be one of those mid 70’s -late 80’s when a Braves win was an iconic moment.

  156. dsw61

    Jesse1 Greg Poole dsw61 You know what’s funny. I grew up in New Hampshire…what southerners call “The North”. I don’t see a lot of difference between what I did as a kid growing up in the country and what country southern kids do growing up. Hunting, fishing…and shooting BB guns at street signs and the like. My best friend in HS got arrested for doing donuts with his car in a school ground play area. New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont have vast rural areas and hunting and gun ownership is very big.

  157. Bansai buckeroo

    @Greg Poole…..that’s great top…looking forward to listening….I want to see all the qb’s work with the first team offense but especially Eason….this will give us idea of how far he has progressed…

  158. RumRunnerDoogie

    Jesse1 well at least a team from Ga will finally win a game in turner field this year


    Jesse1 Bulldawg Bob2 BahitsDawg AlphaDawg Yes they did…  My Grandpa and Grand mother lived between Jefferson and Nicholson.  Good hunting up in Jackson county!


    AlphaDawg Bulldawg Bob2 I want to see the QB’s in full contact jersey’s and playing the game like it means something.  There were times last year the QB would have been sacked, but the pass was still completed.  We have 3 QB’s fighting for the job, let them fight and keep it REAL!

  161. Jesse1

    Bulldawg Bob2 BahitsDawg AlphaDawg Back in the 70’s seeing pick up trucks on Broad St in Athens with a full loaded gun rack was a common site. Especially since Jackson County used to have some fat deer.


    BahitsDawg MMCSDAWG Bulldawg Bob2 AlphaDawg Yeah, I went back home and actually commuted to Ga. State for one semester and that was it, so I decided it was time to get out of town and joined the Navy…  never thinking I would spend 22 years in, but I’m really glad I did!  Especially now that I’m in my 10th year of receiving a retirement check from uncle sam!

    We definitely had hunting rifles and guns all over the place when I was at Southern.  Me and my roommates would probably have fallen under some sort of terrorism statute in todays world.  We had quite a few guns between the 3 of us.

  163. Jesse1

    BahitsDawg AlphaDawg Bulldawg Bob2 I saw enough of that last year. He had protection, though it will eventually break down. Ability to spread the ball around and not hone in on the primary target is the area Lambert needs, no, must show a quantum leap in improvement. Or he’s toast by Fall.

  164. dawgmum

    Greg Poole dawgmum My aunt once gave my teenage brother a record album. It was a recording of the Indianapolis 500. Nothing more exciting than extended play of the sound of cars driving around a racetrack! She was known for her crappy gifts. We still exchange many of them as jokes each Christmas. 

    She never did give him footie pj’s though, so I guess there’s that.


    Greg Poole Yes, especially Stupid ones…  I have yet to see an arrest at UGA since the J. Taylor crime that would meet the criteria for a call to N. Saban…  all of these incidents including the wacky weed, would have been handled by one of his “QA/QC” staff…  This is something that kirby will have to adjust to.

  166. BahitsDawg

    AlphaDawg Bulldawg Bob2 I want to see Lambert under game time pressure and with a serious rush in his face.

  167. Greg Poole

    dawgmum LOL – I used to hate the gift my old maid aunt gave – socks and stuff like that.

  168. BahitsDawg

    MMCSDAWG BahitsDawg Bulldawg Bob2 AlphaDawg Nevermind.  I just checked your profile and remembered you went navy.  My roommate went forestry.

    Probably 90% of Southern were hunters in those days.  Sort of like ABAC still is today.   My oldest thinks Tifton is heaven on earth.  smh

  169. Jesse1

    Greg Poole Maybe the Stanford coach is wrong. And us simple folk are past making a mountain out of a mole hill.

  170. Jesse1

    Greg Poole Another sidebar regarding the law of unintended consequences of too many well intentioned laws post Columbine run amuck. Even if the officer wanted to give them a break, with the camera rolling, and a live feed going back to some mainframe somewhere, that isn’t an option. Time was when officers were inclined to give a kid a break. Follow you home and remind you to stay out of trouble. He/She can’t do that these days. Otherwise the officers would be engaging in obstruction of justice.

  171. BahitsDawg

    AlphaDawg Greg Poole BahitsDawg MidtownTeacher lol!  That is great!

    I shot the base of a huge oak tree from about 5 feet and had the BB come back and hit me hard about a half inch from my eye.  That was enlightening.   I am much more careful now.

  172. Bulldawg Bob2

    Kirby Smart stated on 680 the Fan that we will definitely see Jacob Eason play on G-Day

  173. BahitsDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 AlphaDawg The leaks are few and far between.  Security seems greater than even Richt’s Iron Wall.

  174. BahitsDawg

    AlphaDawg BahitsDawg Bulldawg Bob2 I wrote my own to work with Burnzone for tweeter, but I don’t want to use someone else to get around our firewall.  I am sensitive to the security involved.

    I will try to figure out what is blocking the images and see if I can make a selective tool for viewing the images.  It is fun in a nerdy sort of way.  lol

  175. Bulldawg Bob2

    AlphaDawg Murray commented on the podcast that he had talked to someone that stated that Ramsey had a 40 something yard TD run in Georgia’s second scrimmage, and that Eason had a 50 something yarder. Unfortunately, there is no way for us to confirm that.


    BahitsDawg Bulldawg Bob2 AlphaDawg When were you @ Georgia Southern??   That sounds a little like me…  I graduated from Riverdale and when to southern in 1981 and was there for couple of years before transferring!  We used to go down and hunt in Ludowici!

  177. Bulldawg Bob2

    BahitsDawg AlphaDawg I ended up becoming good friends with a guy that lived off of Hwy 15 to Greensboro, Ga, and he held onto my 30-30 and my compound bow while I lived at Russell Hall at UGA. We used to go deer hunting a good bit. Used to be some good hunting down that way.

  178. AlphaDawg

    Greg Poole interesting. I felt like his commitment was being overshadowed by these arrests.

  179. Jesse1

    MidtownTeacher We used to go to the playground to shoot cans precisely because there was a whole lot of space. Same with hitting golf balls. ” Go over to the school playground. I’m not replacing any more windows.” Heard in my parents house and the homes of many of my friends.

  180. Greg Poole

    Interestingly, Bob’s story on the PWO lineman is drawing more traffic that the arrests at the moment. Are UGA fan’s numb to arrests.

  181. BahitsDawg

    AlphaDawg Ramsey is a true athlete in every sense of the word.   I wish he could get the leadership and focus down to have won the job last year.

  182. BahitsDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 BahitsDawg AlphaDawg My roommate at Georgia Souther COLLEGE brought his various hunting rifles from time to time.  He would hide them under the bed.   He lived in riverdale and his Granddad had hunting land in Savannah.  So, come hunting season, he didn’t want to leave them in the truck.

    The guy was one of the coolest people I have ever known.  He transferred to UGA with his girlfriend and likely was a valedictorian…. I am sure he continued the practice of arms transportation after getting to Athens.

  183. AlphaDawg

    Kirby mentioning Ramsey has used his legs in situations. ‘that’s what makes him different’

  184. AlphaDawg

    Greg Poole BahitsDawg I believe it’s the twitter embeds he isn’t capable of seeing.  Twitter is probably blocked.

  185. Greg Poole

    BahitsDawg We would be glad to correspond with your boss on your behalf concerning censorship of our content.

  186. Bulldawg Bob2

    BahitsDawg AlphaDawg It would still be a violation under the newe law if and when it comes into effect this summer unless they had a permit to carry.

    And yes. I suspect they knew they were not supposed to have them on campus or in their dorm room.

    When I went to UGA in 1991 and lived in Russell Hall, they tell you in orientation that you cannot have any type of gun, including an air gun or bow and arrows nor crossbows. Back then, I think it was just school policy and not against the law, but I am not 100% sure. Knifes over a certain length were banned as well. There was a guy on my floor that got kicked out fall quarter for having a k-bar knife.

  187. BahitsDawg

    Greg Poole dsw61 too many people don’t see a difference with someone with a BB gun or Airsoft vs. someone with an AR-15 vs. an AK-47.

    They see something that looks scary to them and they panic.

  188. AlphaDawg

    BahitsDawg Bulldawg Bob2 Can you use a proxy to access this site? or do they block that too?

  189. BahitsDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 I hate the firewall where I am.   I see ZERO posted pictures so I loose the context of a lot of posts.  It is frustrating.

  190. AlphaDawg

    Greg Poole BahitsDawg MidtownTeacher my grandfather showed me the BB that was buried in his palm because he was a kid too scared to tell his dad he shot his hand with a BB gun

  191. Reddawg13

    BB gun be damned! Now this. I believe a large percentage of coaches have a desire to be coordinators and also head coaches. I also believe that some of those coaches have the “it” factor to do just that. I believe Kirby has that “it” factor. But, I will go further and say I truly believe Kirby also observed, studied, learned and soaked up everything he could to prepare him for this moment. I may completely wrong but I believe we have hired us a winner! What say you?

  192. BahitsDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 AlphaDawg I wonder if they even knew that having a BB gun was against the stupid scardy cat rules.

    btw, would this be a violation if Raw Deal finally signs the campus carry law?

  193. Greg Poole

    BahitsDawg MidtownTeacher Remind me to tell the story about shooting myself in the nose with a CO2 powered BB gun as a kid.

  194. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 That has always been the case, Bob. The problem for the cops is that they were more-than-likely reported, rather than a cop just observing the target practice. If the citizen who reported them later complained publicly that a cop just turned them over to Kirby, there would be big problems for the officer.

  195. Bulldawg Bob2

    Reddawg13 Unfortunately, under the current law neither ACCPD nor UGAPD are allowed to just confiscate the guns and send them on their merry way with a slap on the wrist.

    If they did, those LE officials would probably lose their jobs.

  196. MidtownTeacher

    i may be the most liberal person on this board and i think shooting a bb gun being considered a felony is asinine. though if done in situations you dont like it is called judicial activism, i think this is a perfect example of why human subjectivity in the judicial branch is as important as statutes. technically these young men fit the definition of using a firearm, but come on, ive shot people in the butt with one when i was a kid. i wouldn’t do that with a real “firearm”. Rochester and clay are country boys and i would prefer them have abb gun than alcohol

  197. Bulldawg Bob2

    AlphaDawg I would not want be in Clay’s or Rochester’s shoes with this Georgia staff. There going to be a lot of running and what we call arse chewing from now till the cows come home and then some.

  198. Reddawg13

    Greg Poole Did Clay and Rochester make a mistake? Yes! Is it a horrific mistake? No! Did ACCPD do their job? Yes! Is there more than one way to do that job? Yes! Why not confiscate the gun and tell those boys, “if I ever catch either of you doing anything else while you are UGA it will not go well for you!” Then file a report and let Coach Smart know what happened. Our company has standards and policies too, but common sense also applies! JMHO!

  199. AlphaDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 Got to think Kirby is texting ole Nick to say, can you believe this? LOL the things our players could do in Tuscaloosa!!

  200. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 Bedazzling is still a thang? How about cowgirl boots? If so, a sewn-in holster would be cute.

  201. Greg Poole

    From the comments hitting our Twitter and Facebook accounts, it appears that the police are going to be the source of many fans’ outrage over this incident.

  202. AlphaDawg

    Greg Poole AlphaDawg Question: If I have a gun permit, and it’s in my vehicle while my vehicle is parked let’s say in a parking deck on campus, would that be a felony charge? Or does the permit negate that.

  203. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 Of course, UGA might be able to add the retail price of a fancy Glock to the full cost of attendance calculation. There are pluses and minuses with everything.

  204. AlphaDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 Greg Poole alcohol , explosive hormones, and Superiority complex do not mix well with firearms

  205. Bulldawg Bob2

    dsw61 Greg Poole Found the article on UGA President Moorehead speaking on HB 895:

  206. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 Which is more likely? 
    A. Student saves classmates and herself from rampaging gunman on campus.
    B. Student shoots bestie while showing off her quick draw outside Athens bar.

  207. Bulldawg Bob2

    dsw61 Correct on the permit, and I have mixed emotions about the law, especially on a college campus. On the one hand, it could deter a crazy gunman bent on doing harm, but on the other hand, there is the possibility of a student who over reacts to a situation and uses deadly force when they should not have.

    The law becomes effective July 1st if it is not vetoed by the Governor.

  208. Greg Poole

    Jail records are still showing them as locked up, but I do not know how frequently those records are updates.

  209. dsw61

    Bulldawg Bob2 dsw61 I’m not sure how I feel about the guns on campus law. I know my daughter has expressed some uneasiness about it. My understanding is that you have to have some type of carry permit to be legal…which I would imagine requires a serious background check.

  210. Greg Poole

    dsw61 I was reported for shooting street lights out with a bb gun when I was about 12. My dad had to pay for the bulbs and I got a painful butt.

  211. Bulldawg Bob2

    dsw61 I’m guilty as charged here. I was terror in the local woods with my Red Ryder BB gun and then later my Crosman pellet rifle as a wee lad. I got pretty good and pegging the “O” in the STOP sign at the intersection of the dirt road where I grew up.

  212. dsw61

    Greg Poole DawgDaddy Agree it was stupid. I don’t understand where some of these kid’s heads are at. Some of them make really poor decisions.

  213. Bulldawg Bob2

    DawgDaddy Better. She has good days and bad days. Working on getting her appetite back and energy level back. Thanks for asking

  214. Score Check

    When I was a kid I wanted a Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle for Christmas.  I was told: “I would shoot my eye out kid” and couldn’t have one.  Fortunately my father relented and surprised me with one on Christmas morning.

  215. Bulldawg Bob2

    dsw61 I agree, and I suspect it most likely will be reduced. Let’s hope the prosecutor nor the school president are not wanting to make an example here of Clay and Rochester. 

    President Moorehead is not a fan of guns on campus and is an outspoken opponent of the law just passed but not yet signed to legalize to carry guns on campuses, HB895.

  216. dsw61

    Bulldawg Bob2 dsw61 Just hope the people handling this use some common sense and don’t potentially wreck a kid’s life because he shot a BB gun at a street sign. I wonder how many people on here over the age of 50 have ever shot a BB gun at something other than an official target:)

  217. DawgDaddy

    Greg Poole just saw a report on Fox 5 News, I would think this to be on par with a scooter violation except for the fact of the campus violence that has become all too common now.  I am hoping for a fine,  community service and stadium steps will be punishment enough.  I certainly hope they are note actually charged with a felony.

  218. dsw61

    Bulldawg Bob2 dsw61 IMO, this needs to be reduced to a misdemeanor. More for damaging public property…which I don’t like…than having a BB gun. What about baseball bats? I can cause all kinds of damage with a baseball bat…and worse.

  219. Bulldawg Bob2

    dsw61 The law is stricter for a school campus or school zone though DSW, and the Georgia law states: 

    “Weapon” means and includes any pistol, revolver, or any weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind”

    And a student can get suspended from high school for carrying a metal nail file now-a-days.

  220. Greg Poole

    Here is the official release:
    University of Georgia freshmen Julian Rochester and Chad Clay
    were arrested Monday night on charges related to possession of a BB gun and
    property damage.

    “I’m disappointed with the poor judgment of Julian and Chad,” said UGA head
    coach Kirby Smart.  “We expect full compliance with the policies of the
    University and of our football program from all our student-athletes.
    Information is still being gathered but they will be disciplined in an
    appropriate manner.”

  221. dsw61

    A BB Gun does not use an explosive to expel a projectile…it uses air. I got a BB for my 10th birthday. Regardless, we now live in a hyper sensitive culture where a clear plastic water pistol would likely get you suspended from HS if found in your back pack or car.

  222. dsw61

    “The term ‘firearm’ is defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Section 921 (a) (3), to include ‘(A) any weapon (including a starter gun), which will, or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon…’ Based on Section 921 (a) (3), air guns, because they use compressed air and not an explosive to expel a projectile, do not constitute firearms under Federal law – unless they are manufactured with the frames or receivers of an actual firearm. Accordingly, the domestic sale and possession of air guns is normally unregulated under the Federal firearms laws enforced by ATF.”

  223. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 I still have my squirrel destroyer pellet rifle that saw extensive action when we had to defend our lakehouse from the invading hordes of rodents. However,  I’m afraid that my neighbors in Athens would react much the same as those of our fun-loving football players.

  224. AlphaDawg

    Bulldawg Bob2 While it would be nice for the officer to apply common sense to the matter, he has a job to do and unfortunately, BB guns are considered weapons. Sometimes I just wish things were like old times where officers didn’t want to see you arrested and instead think things through before putting a felony charge on someone’s record.

  225. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2  One of these days a kid is going to sue a school for dismissing him before a case is adjudicated.

  226. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 Athens needs to have a squirrel season. The rodents are everywhere. Maybe import some hawks for varmint control.

  227. Bulldawg Bob2

    Greg Poole I was most concerned with Ben Cleveland getting caught on campus hunting squirrels than I was hearing about Clay and Rochester deciding to do some late Monday target practice  ####

  228. Bulldawg Bob2

    Greg Poole Aye. If the felonies stick, then it is basically a similar situation to Isaiah Crowell back in 2012.
    Let’s hope the prosecutor and school doesn’t want to make an example of them.

  229. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2 >>> The only question is, how many games will it cost them? If the felonies stick – which is seriously doubt – they will most likely be gone.

  230. Bulldawg Bob2

    I know some of you will ask why is a BB or pellet gun a big deal, but you have to keep in mind that is basically a no tolerance policy when it comes to weapons on school campuses. You also have to keep in  mind today’s current climate with perceived weapons on college campuses with the recent school shootings. 

    A lot of BB and pellet guns look like real guns, especially to people that don’t know the difference; so, as Greg Poole mentioned below, it is most likely that they were reported and the police called on them.

    While I expect the charges to most likely be reduced, we will have to see what the school decides to do here. I strongly suspect that both Rochester and Clay will have to miss some playing time at the very least. How much is the big question?

  231. Greg Poole

    Bulldawg Bob2  Didn’t GA just pass a law allowing guns at schools? j/k I doubt that the law oks target practice.

  232. Bulldawg Bob2

    Greg Poole Aye, and whomever did might of thought they were actual  guns and not air guns. In today’s climate, and with the no tolerance at schools and government facilities, it was not a bright move on their part.

  233. Bulldawg Bob2

    ZippyMorocco Already has and already is. Brings me comfort as well knowing it is bring her comfort. Thank you  and the ladies at Bowden United Methodist. It is very much appreicated

  234. Bulldawg Bob2

    Good morning all you Georgia Bulldawg fans and DGD’s. 

    About to head off to get some biscuits before running some more CAT5 Ethernet cable. Let’s see how many spiders I can find today in the processe 😉

  235. Bulldawg Bob2

    Greg Poole Hearing the weapon they were caught with is some sort of air rifle or gun like a BB or pellet gun, and that the damage to property occurred in the apartment they share.

  236. ZippyMorocco

    Greg Poole 
    Rusty Mansell says they were shooting a pellet gun in an apartment. The charges will probably be reduced to misdemeanors.

  237. ZippyMorocco

    Good morning Leatherheads.

    Colonial and I have already posted in a mysterious thread.

  238. Greg Poole

    Given that he inherited a 3-9 team with a lot of holes, Muschamp won’t be burdened with astronomical Year 1 expectations. Just getting back to a bowl game will be enough for the Gamecocks, and thus McIlwain — should he win the job — does not have to be an instant star. Still, the direction of the offense will be closely scrutinized as Muschamp attempts to correct the mistakes of his past and prove he is capable of succeeding at South Carolina where he failed at Florida.