UGA Recruiting Daily 11-August-2016

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UGA Recruiting Daily 11-August-2016

No.56 Fred Hansard (photo Fred Hansard - Twitter)
No.56 Fred Hansard
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FRED HANSARD

CLASS: 2017
POSITION: No. 10 DT
Hun High School
Princeton, NJ
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3523479/5721bd1164e96b638001fcc0
 
 

COOPER LEE

CLASS: 2017 JUCO
POSITION: K/P
Coffeyville CC
(Graduated from DeSoto High School, KS)
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/2630214/5721d6a4dfe23b2d68bcc59b
 
 

ISAIAH WILSON

CLASS: 2017
POSITION: No.8 OT
Poly Prep School
Brooklyn, NY

 
 

BERNARD PORTER

CLASS: 2018
POSITION: WR
Ridge View
Columbia, SC
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4591411/5721d5f0041ddc1b006f0ffc

 
 

 

 

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  1. DawgByte

    freddawg To your comment about roster management, as a DC at Bama I’m sure Kirby had some input on defensive roster management. I think Kirby is a tremendous motivator based on coaches and former player comments. 
    Regarding Tim’s situation, I don’t think we’re ever going to know what happened, unless Tim uses social media to provide more details, however my guess is UGA has asked him to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Remember Kimbrough ran into some issues under the last coaching staff and was not available for the Bowl game. I honestly do not believe this is a Kirby Smart issue, but rather a Tim Kimbrough issue. I wish Tim all the best in the future. It’s time to move on with the guys we have on the roster.

  3. 1mandawgpack

    freddawg  Given where we are in terms of depth and number of players on the roster, I really wish we could have kept Kimbrough too as he was a senior and wouldn’t occupy a scholarship spot next year anyway.  However, much (if not most) of what CKS has brought to UGA resulted from his apprenticeship under Saban, and ‘Bama virtually never had an upperclassman on the roster who wasn’t contributing in a significant way (and not just a few special team plays per game as they put their best players on the field in all circumstances).  So, once CKS builds the depth that he desires (and hopefully does a bit better job in evaluating talent so that there are fewer “misses” who will progress through the program without significant contributions), I don’t see a lot of scenarios similar to Kimbrough’s going forward (i.e., in 2 to 3 years), but I agree with you that it might come back to bite us a bit later in the season depending on fatigue, injuries, etc. given our thin depth at many positions.

  4. dawgmum

    Greg Poole dawgmum Is it pretty certain they will give him the go ahead? The paper today (AJC. I know, I know) made it seem like it was iffy.

  5. dsw61

    1mandawgpack dsw61 Greg Poole I’ve made the point before that a large portion of NFL QBs throw to their first read due to the fact that they know where they’re going with the ball pre-snap. I’ve never played QB, but I understand concepts really well, and I don’t understand why a kid like Ramsey can’t figure it out by now. An argument can be made that Lambert hasn’t exactly figured it out either.

    In the Vandy game last year there was one play where Lambert gets under center and surveys the defense. Vandy’s safety is in the middle of the field. Lambert takes the snap, does a play action fake, turns around, and throws the ball to a receiver running a post pattern to the middle of the field. By the time Lambert turned around the safety was clearly dropping back. The ball was thrown directly to the safety, but somehow he dropped it. I don’t get how a QB doesn’t see the safety in that situation. Like I said, I’ve never played QB before though. On the surface it just seems like an easy concept to spot the safety, and if he’s cheating towards the area of the field your first read is suppose to run towards; then just forget about trying to make that throw and go to your second read, check it down, or just run.

  6. AlphaDawg

    Michael Pope This one is the most interesting to me… If actually true and not over-reacting, that should eliminate the depth chart conversation.

  9. freddawg

    Probably get some disagreement with this because it may be critical of Kirby (depending on a lot of facts I don’t know) but, after readiing a few articles,  I wonder if Kimbrough’s transfer was avoidable.  Some fans criticized CMR of being too loyal to upperclassmen, and pushed the “play the best man” idea.  That’s fairly simple to say, but complicated to actually do.  Upperclassmen, in addition to having the advantage of experience, do not like being passed on the depth chart, especially if they have NFL aspirations.  Some tend to disengage from the team once their dreams are dealt that kind of blow.  Maurice Smith and Tim Kimbrough are both possible examples of that.

    There are ways to keep less talented upperclassmen engaged, e.g., letting them start but work the backups into more playing time as the season progresses.  That irritates fans who want to see the new phenom play right away, but it pays dividends in team morale and a hierarchy that includes paying your dues over time.  There are trade offs either way, but it’s hard to deny that if Kimbrough could have been kept happy while still working younger guys into the lineup, we’d have better depth at ILB this season.

    Roster management is a new thing for Kirby and he may change the way he handles these things over time.  Keeping the more mature players motivated and engaged is important.

  10. AlphaDawg

    dsw61 Greg Poole AlphaDawg This is true, but how many kids are willing to transfer and start over with a new staff? Smith is a special situation given Kirby’s move and the previous relationship. It’s like your cable company or insurance company. You hate them, but you know the hassle of leaving is greater than just accepting them.

  11. Bansai buckeroo

    From his tweets he seemed like he was dealing with it but who knows what was really going on…. Well…I wish him good luck.

  15. Greg Poole

    dawgmum My guess is SEC will do it today. I’m sure everyone wants this thing to go away.

  22. dawgmum

    1mandawgpack dsw61 Greg Poole AlphaDawg Has he been cleared by the SEC yet? If not, any idea how long that will take?

  23. 1mandawgpack

    dsw61 Greg Poole AlphaDawg  If you’ll look at Saban’s roster, historically he has not had juniors or seniors who are not playing extensively as he would have figured out a way to get rid of them much earlier so they’re not occupying a valuable scholarship position (a much different stance than UGA, which has publicly stated that our scholarships are for a 4 year term).  So, I don’t think this will impact him significantly.  Additionally, the young man seeking to transfer has played extensively and, through Spring, was projected as a starter, so a bit different fact pattern and likely an anomaly as the young man is transferring for some reason other than lack of playing time.

  25. Greg Poole

    dsw61 AlphaDawg  Could be but how many 5*s are sitting at Bama or elsewhere. The real key is that schools don’t own the players and they reserve the right to kick them off scholly at any time, without cause.  When it is a five-year deal with no cuts (except for cause), I will be more sympathetic.

  27. 1mandawgpack

    dsw61 Greg Poole  His pretty passes have a tendency to look great through the air on the way to a player in a different color jersey.  I don’t know if he has trouble reading defenses or doesn’t put in the time to study and break-down film, but a QB like Tom Brady knows where his throw is going on the vast majority of plays when he steps to the line of scrimmage and reads the defense.  His ability to apply the mental aspects of the game is why he rarely gets sacked (and has an extremely high completion percentage and QB rating) even though he’s not mobile and typically doesn’t have the highest paid offensive linemen, WR or RB in the league.

    In my opinion, that’s the part that we as fans (myself included) miss in applying our armchair QB extensive knowledge of FB in attempting to determine who is the most capable QB as many get hung up on the “pretty throws” that happen in a practice or spring game.  What we need is the QB who possesses both skillsets (e.g., Aaron Murray), which I’m hoping the current coaching staff will continue to develop.

  31. dsw61

    Greg Poole AlphaDawg I think Saban knows that if he starts allowing grad transfers, he’ll end up with depth chart issues as more and more 5* who aren’t starting will be looking for a way to leave.

  37. Reddawg13

    Greg Poole That is why I wanted Manac to get ILB reps. He has the size and athleticism to give some serious thump!

  38. godawgs678

    I’m assuming Kimbrough left because of losing ground on the depth chart? I haven’t read a whole lot about it, but going from the leading returning tackler to the 4th or 5th option at ILB has to be tough. My feeling is Mel and Kirby want 3 down linebackers who have the ability to cover a little bit. That’s where Tim was a liability. He will always be a DGD. Wish him success in his future endeavors!

  40. dsw61

    Greg Poole dsw61 Yeah, some kids just don’t have the intellectual curiosity at their position to excel. Most people call it lazy, but my experience has been that some kids just aren’t interested enough in what they’re doing to learn their position to the max.

  41. Greg Poole

    Georgia’shttp://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3728310/natrez-patrick lost 20 pounds to get more explosive. Davis said he spends time participating in defensive-back drills to create faster hip movement and more quickness on the balls of his feet. Coaches harp on endless cone drills to improve quickness.
    “As much as it changes, it stays the same,” Smart said. “I promise you, if you ask LSU what they’d rather not face, it’s that big, physical presence in there that they gotta go up and block and hit their fullback with.
    “That’s what we’re trying to recruit to. You want to have enough space players in your linebacking corps, but you better have some thump.”
    http://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/119098/athletic-multi-talented-middle-linebackers-are-overtaking-sec-defenses

  45. converted 1981

    DawgDaddy Greg Poole My wife likes the commercial with the ladies sitting by the pool and the husbands attempting to use the net as a pole vault…… OUCH!

  47. Greg Poole

    AlphaDawg On the most basic level, Saban is acting as if player are property. A terrible message, that.

  49. Bulldawg36

    Yup. Also it’s not like losing smith is gonna hurt Bama..because it’s not. They’re so deep they won’t even know he’s gone.